Monday, January 4, 2016

Do conventions ruin celebrities for fans?






Hello everyone, I hope all is well. I’ll start this for those who might be not as familiar with conventions as others. There are Sci-Fi, Comic book, Horror, and really any kind of genre of convention that are usually held in or around major cities across the country and abroad. The most popular (imo) is the Sci-Fi/Comic Book convention. It’s usually held at a location that has at least a few large rooms. One room is usually the vendor room. The vendor room is like a merchandise market. Various vendors have tables set up selling their merchandise. If there is something you are looking for from the Science Fiction or comic book world, you can most likely find it there. But just as any other open market you need to be aware of who you’re purchasing things from. As with the rest of the world, not everyone is there to sell quality goods at a fair price. Be wary of possible bootleg products as well as highly overpriced price tags. Secondly, there is usually an artist room aka “Artist Alley”. Comic book artists, writers, inkers, etc. are here. There is usually some awesome local talent as well as more mainstream comic book talent. There you can get your favorite books signed, buy original art, or just a handshake and a hello. Thirdly there is the media room. The media room is usually where the celebrities are. A lot of times conventions will bring in celebrities to help boost admission sales. Now this isn’t the baseline for every convention. There are variations. This is to give the uninitiated a general idea. Sometimes there are additional rooms for Q&A’s, gaming, demos, cosplay contests, etc. Hopefully you get the idea.

It seems that lately more and more conventions are popping up all over the place. Some are small, some are large. Some are extremely costly and some are fairly priced. I came into the convention scene a little later than some of the other seasoned veterans did. Some remember when all convention celebrity attendees didn't charge for autographs or if you did have to pay they were relatively cheaply priced. My first convention was The X-Files Expo in Dallas in 98. There were three celebrities that there from the show and all three signed for free. The downside is that you had to stand in line a long time to meet them. Unfortunately, I was only able to meet two of them, but they were two of my favorites (Outside of Mulder & Scully). They were Mitch Pileggi and Dean Haglund aka Skinner and Langly. 

         I didn’t attend a convention for another four years. That convention was the first Dallas Comic Con. I had researched the convention a little beforehand and I noticed something different going on. Celebrities were charging a fee for their autograph. I understood the reasoning behind the charges. Of course I would rather pay nothing but who wouldn’t. Fortunately, the fees weren’t too bad, so it wasn’t a total surprise. Since prior to the show I didn’t know the exact prices, I had to figure out who I really wanted to meet just in case the prices were high. Things were good, well to me at least. I got to meet some of my favorite celebrities and artists (Dave Stevens), make some new friends (some of the best friends I have had, have been people I’ve met at a convention) and then call it a day. Were there some negatives? Sure. (Corn chips anyone?) But the positives far outweighed the negatives. But to quote the legendary Bob Dylan “The times they are a changin’”.

Now I can only personally speak from my own experiences. But I’ve heard from people who have had similar experiences, say that this has happened to them as well. In their eyes as well as mine things are going good and then the local fan friendly convention gets bought out by a corporation. Corporations only see one thing, dollar signs. The one on one interaction with your favorite celebrity is replaced by the cattle call. What I mean by that is you are just going through the line like cattle with basically no interaction with the celebrity. Just pay your money, collect your autograph, and move along. Don’t even think about eye contact. Lol (ok that was a stretch. But it happens) Customer service goes down, prices go up. Instead of a small handful of celebs being brought in, a plethora (to quote Three Amigos) of celebrities is now being brought in. At double, sometimes triple the price for their autograph. They would in turn start getting the “bigger” names in not only the science fiction world but in television and movies. Simply because they have the financial backing of the corporation. So they can afford to bring in the bigger names. When it used to be the celebrities seemed to love meeting their fans, now a lot of them consider it just an easy paycheck. Comic Cons have turned into “media cons”.  They rush you through the line and nickel and dime you for everything. Don’t even think about pulling your camera out a taking a photo of the celebrity signing your item. Because you now have to pay an additional fee (anywhere from $30 to $125) for a photo with the celeb for an “Olan Mills” style photo. It seems like now with the bigger conventions and it seems to be bleeding over to the smaller ones, you aren’t even allowed to take your camera or phone out at all. Now don’t get me wrong I love to see a variety of celebrities at a convention. But if there is so many to choose from, how do you choose. If you have five to ten (or more) “headlining” guests charging $40 to $150 (yes, I said $150) an autograph and various other guests at considerably lesser price tags, someone is getting the short end. Now if there were only a small handful of guests, let’s say five to ten total, the playing field is a little more even. And everyone goes away satisfied.  

I’ve seen a growing trend at conventions as of late. A lot of people think that it started with The Walking Dead actors charging their fans so much for their autographs. But I believe it started way before that with the Creation conventions. With those drastic price increases it is making other celebrities who wouldn’t normally charge as much start raising their prices. Of course I understand, I don’t like it, but I understand. If a celeb is sitting at a table and charging say 25 dollars for their autograph and there are two other celebs to their left and right charging let’s say 40 dollars. All three have a steady line but the one charging 25 is thinking “I could charge 40 and get more money for doing the same thing”. So he/she changes their price to 40. So it begins. Most (if not all) of celebrities that go to conventions are there for the money and therefor don’t mind the price increase to their fans. Some maybe oblivious to the prices. I doubt it, but I guess it’s possible. Now I’ve had the “pricing” conversation with many people, even with some of the celebrities themselves. Celebs saying they don’t make the prices it’s the promoters. The promoters saying it’s the celebs that make the prices. Either way the prices continue to go up and it’s the fan’s wallets that suffer. I know no one is forcing you to go or to pay the prices. I know things go up, not just with autographs but with everything. That’s beside the point. It shouldn’t go up that drastically. Gas went up over four dollars here in Texas one year, it’s not that anymore. Prices can go down. Maybe not what they were exactly, but they can come down. Of course it’s just my opinion though.

I have also had conversations with those who have absolutely zero knowledge of the convention world. They’ve asked me what goes on there and how does it work. They’ve seen the photos I’ve taken and autographs I’ve gotten. So I explain to them what all goes on and how it “works”. Once I get to the pricing part of the autographs, they are completely dumbfounded. “You have to pay for their autographs?” some would say. Then after they would think about it they would understand a little bit but not fully. Their thoughts would turn from a positive to a negative saying that “if they really cared for their fans they wouldn’t charge”. Then it would really get heated when they became aware of the higher priced autographs and “photo ops” from some celebrities. Going as far as saying they are no longer a fan. Even though they’ve never met them or attended a convention. “If all they care about is ripping people off at these conventions then they won’t see another dime from me”. I really didn’t understand at times how it got so heated. But regardless it did and by a number of people.

I also know people who can’t attend conventions because either they are too far from them or too expensive. So they are strictly ttm collectors. TTM means “Through the Mail”, meaning that someone can find an address for a specific celebrity (either a manager or agents address) and they write to them asking for an autograph. Generally there are things that should always be included, a letter of request, something for them to sign, and a self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE). But I have found that with the recent growth spurt of a variety of celebrities at conventions, ones who use to sign for their fans for free via ttm now refuse because they aren’t getting paid like they would at a convention. Some have even started an official store selling autographs through there. Sometimes if you write to them you will get a standard return to sender. But some will actually keep the items you’ve sent and send you a Pre-Print autograph (a photographic copy of their autograph on a photo) or a letter requesting payment. 

My question is this: Do conventions have the possibility of ruining a fan/celebrity relationship? Especially with the ever rising ticket, autograph, and photo op prices.

3 comments:

  1. I would say YES, there is a possibility to lessen the excitement. This happened to me at a concert for Gino Vanelli a few years ago. I bought the "meet/greet" package which included a program and lanyard, plus the chance to "meet Gino". Well, "meeting" him turned out to be standing in line, only to have him sign whatever you had and not react at all to what I was telling him. I felt really cheated and now don't care for him as a person anymore. I still love his music very much and I idolized him before this concert. If he would have at least been engaged and showed a tiny speck of interest in me as a fan of over 40 years, I would have felt better. So in this case, it wasn't all the promoters fault, it was the artist himself who destroyed the fan outlook and relationship. I guess Gino did what he had to do, but he could have at least faked it for the half hour he was out there and made it worthwhile. That signature on the vinyl would have had A LOT more value today, but it didn't even make a difference. What is also very sad, is that I brought a single red rose to put on the stage or hand to him while he sang a favorite ballad, it was a small venue so I figured I could get away with it since I sat near the stage. When the moment came, I walked up and tried it hand to him, but put at his feet since he didn't look at me, and then he simply kicked it aside. Wow, just wow. If that was me, I would have taken the rose, made eye contact and went on with my song. Anyway, that is
    my two cents on this topic.

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  2. Well as one who has gone to conventions since I was 16 I say yes. Speaking to your favorite celebrity is not what it use to be. I use to get autographs free. Then they starting goimg up to $6, $10, $20 and on up! When cons were small theybwere great but as they grew not so great. We have Megacon here in Orlando and they don't bring in a few celebrities they bring in a ton. This year I believe they are bringing in the entire living cast of Back to the Future. By the time you get your autographs and selfies your looking at almost $1k, not to mention all the other celebrities that you may want. I would love to go but can't justify the money being spent being freshly married again. In Lakeland, Florida where I live they have a newncon called Central Florida Convention and this past January was their first, and it felt like when I was 16 again. Yoh had time to chat with the celebrities.

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  3. I see it a little different, I live in East TN and we have a convention called Fanboy Expo twice a year..it started out small and prices were great - $20 for daily tickets, $75 for VIP tickets, most autographs were $20-30.00 with free photo ops..but they had older celebrities or less popular celebs because they charged less, and after a few years the fans started begging on social media for them to get bigger name actors from more current shows, and with that came a much higher risk for the Promoters which in turn caused the tickets to go up to $40 for single day and $175 for VIP..and with bigger name celebs came higher prices for autographs, Dustin Diamond from saved by the bell might be happy to get $30 per autograph, but Michael J Fox isn't flying across the country to make $30 a pop, you gotta make it worth his time to get him to come..and the same fans who begged for bigger names now complain because the shows are more expensive, lol...I also don't think its fair to expect autograph prices to stay the same year after year, it's unrealistic to expect 1989 prices in 2019, I mean this celebrity can't be expected to fly across the country, stay in a hotel for 3 days, spend 10 hours a day signing their name over and over and posing for picture after picture, and do it all for next to nothing, i'm sure they love that we're fans but they also have bills to pay and family at home they would probably rather be with than us, for them this is a job, and they want to make as much money as possible at their job, just like the rest of us do, if our boss came up to us at work and offered an extra $20 an hour I doubt any of us would turn it down, lol, so i don't fault them for getting all they can...and Cons wont admit it but i'm sure they encourage the celebs to charge more because the more they make at the table the less the convention has to pay them, a lot of people think the celebrity shows up and goes home with whatever they made at the show, but that's not how it works, the Con guarantees them a certain amount, say $10,000, if the celeb makes $8,000 at the show then the Con only has to pay them $2,000..if the celeb only makes $2,000 then the Con has to pay the other $8,000 and that adds up fast when you have 30 guests..so a lot of risk goes into a convention for the show promoters, that's why some shows go under after a few years... so yeah they cost more, but what in life doesn't? and yeah if their crowded you don't get as much one on one time with the celebs, but that helps you more than you realize, can you imagine being the 100th person in line when everyone in front of you is taking 10 minutes to talk to the celeb, you'd spend the entire day in one line, so by making the lines move fast it gets you in and out faster so you can go to more lines :)

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